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Doc
Just for clarification:
We have edited several posts from the previous pages, and I don't want to risk that all of those changes might result in someone who follows this thread regularly missing out on a very nice Casino Chip of the Day post by bobbartop. Just take a look a few posts above this one (really, near the bottom of the previous page now) to see his first 'official' contribution to our thread's collection.
I have now added that chip to the thread's index and edited the index to show that rdw4potus's chip was from the Comstock in Tracy, while bobbartop's was from the like-named casino in Santa Clara.
We have edited several posts from the previous pages, and I don't want to risk that all of those changes might result in someone who follows this thread regularly missing out on a very nice Casino Chip of the Day post by bobbartop. Just take a look a few posts above this one (really, near the bottom of the previous page now) to see his first 'official' contribution to our thread's collection.
I have now added that chip to the thread's index and edited the index to show that rdw4potus's chip was from the Comstock in Tracy, while bobbartop's was from the like-named casino in Santa Clara.
TwoFeathersATL
I went back and re-read.Well done Doc.
Well done Barbarabartop.
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
wezvidz
Well looks like I screwed up! A lesson in the penalty of procrastination.
Have a trip planned in 3 weeks to do a loop around FL hitting card rooms and casinos to add to my collection. WPB>Jacksonville>Tallahassee>Tampa>WPB. Was going to do this last August but put it off at the time.
Looked like I'd have 8 new chips for this thread.
Researching today, Hamilton Downs Jai Alai + Poker Room lost their gaming license and closed in October 2015. Doh! Then Seminole Casino Brighton posted on their website just this past week that they are closing their poker room on 8/1/16. Only slots now. Doh!
Have a trip planned in 3 weeks to do a loop around FL hitting card rooms and casinos to add to my collection. WPB>Jacksonville>Tallahassee>Tampa>WPB. Was going to do this last August but put it off at the time.
Looked like I'd have 8 new chips for this thread.
Researching today, Hamilton Downs Jai Alai + Poker Room lost their gaming license and closed in October 2015. Doh! Then Seminole Casino Brighton posted on their website just this past week that they are closing their poker room on 8/1/16. Only slots now. Doh!
Ayecarumba
Nice write up bobbartop! Were these chips used to pay the 'rent' on the chairs in the card room? Based on your description of the blind structure, it doesn't sound like there was much need for odd valued chips.There's a place called 'Artichoke Joe's' in San Bruno, which is near the SFO airport. I wonder if it is the same owner as the former 'Joe's' in San Jose you mentioned in your write up?
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
bobbartop
Nice write up bobbartop! Were these chips used to pay the 'rent' on the chairs in the card room? Based on your description of the blind structure, it doesn't sound like there was much need for odd valued chips.
There's a place called 'Artichoke Joe's' in San Bruno, which is near the SFO airport. I wonder if it is the same owner as the former 'Joe's' in San Jose you mentioned in your write up?
There wasn't much need for odd value chips but I always remember there being 50 cent chips for something. In the standard $20 straight limit lowball up north the collection was a yellow chip ($5) each half hour. Quite reasonable. The best collection I can remember from my past was in San Diego. At one time there were literally 50 or more rooms in the area, and collection was limited to $2.50 per hour. That included some fairly good size games, with over-kills. The San Diego games were unique. I can try to describe them some other time.
In regard to 'Joe's' in San Jose, I may be getting my memory mixed up. I have only heard of it, way back when. But it was Garden City when I first played, which was an A-framed building off Saratoga Ave, very nice club, very popular. It had moved from somewhere because I heard stories. Now I believe it has moved to become M8trix, which I see you have covered in this thread already. I doubt that 'Joe' was the same 'Joe' in San Bruno. Anything's possible.
Garden City had a straight $20 lowball for a long long time. It was worth my trips from Southern Calif. They also had high draw spread limit, $4-40, back in maybe the 70s or 80s. I think they had Pan. Many clubs had Pan in the old days, not much now. Pan was a very different game from poker. It had its loyal players, though. More of a rummy type game, not to be confused with Pan 9. A lot of history to Pan. But I would let someone else on this board describe it better than I could.
I have only played Artichoke's a few times, a long time ago, and I remember it being a No-Limit house. They definitely had NL high draw games, I do not remember lowball from there. I have a chip from there, it's probably 30-40 years old.
There was another club in San Bruno, I think it closed in the 90s, called Casino Royale. Not to be confused with Sacramento. I have a chip from there also.
bobbartop
State: California
City: Gardena
Casino: Eldorado Club
Gardena opened its first card room in 1936, owned by Ernest J Primm, the same Primm whose name is associated with the three casinos at the stateline between California and Nevada on the way to Vegas on Hwy 15. His place was called the Embassy Palace.
Later there were to be six clubs, the Embassy, the Normandie, the Gardena, the Horseshoe, the Rainbow and the Monterey.
At some point the Embassy changed to the Eldorado Club which opened in 1968 and was located on Vermont Ave and Redondo Beach Blvd. They had the standard Gardena games, limit high draw, jacks-or-better to open, lowball, and if I recall they had the biggest pan game around, $100 kondition, I think. I never played pan but that fact is in my fuzzy memory. Board games like hold'em came along in 1986. The Eldorado declared bankruptcy in 1996. At this point the whole LA poker scene had changed dramatically and the Eldorado Club couldn't handle all the competition. Hollywood Park had opened its casino, nearby Compton opened Crystal Park, and you had the big boys like the Bike and Commerce going full swing. Four months later the Eldorado closed forever. Too bad, it was one of my favorite hang-outs, a very nice club, so much rich history.
Here is my chip of the day: I've had it probably 30 years.
City: Gardena
Casino: Eldorado Club
Gardena opened its first card room in 1936, owned by Ernest J Primm, the same Primm whose name is associated with the three casinos at the stateline between California and Nevada on the way to Vegas on Hwy 15. His place was called the Embassy Palace.
Later there were to be six clubs, the Embassy, the Normandie, the Gardena, the Horseshoe, the Rainbow and the Monterey.
At some point the Embassy changed to the Eldorado Club which opened in 1968 and was located on Vermont Ave and Redondo Beach Blvd. They had the standard Gardena games, limit high draw, jacks-or-better to open, lowball, and if I recall they had the biggest pan game around, $100 kondition, I think. I never played pan but that fact is in my fuzzy memory. Board games like hold'em came along in 1986. The Eldorado declared bankruptcy in 1996. At this point the whole LA poker scene had changed dramatically and the Eldorado Club couldn't handle all the competition. Hollywood Park had opened its casino, nearby Compton opened Crystal Park, and you had the big boys like the Bike and Commerce going full swing. Four months later the Eldorado closed forever. Too bad, it was one of my favorite hang-outs, a very nice club, so much rich history.
Here is my chip of the day: I've had it probably 30 years.
Ayecarumba
State: California
City: Gardena
Casino: El Dorado
The few notes on the El Dorado and its role in the history of poker in California:
-- Poker in California was played in underground clubs and speakeasies from the Civil War through Prohibition, despite the fact that a law on the books since the 1870's prohibited games of chance. It is important, as this law did not specifically mention Poker on the list of prohibited games (because the lawmakers enjoyed playing poker).
-- In 1936, the predecessor to the El Dorado, the Embassy Palace opened as the first card club in Gardena. It was housed in a former speakeasy, the Alamo Social Club.
-- In 1937 four men were arrested for playing draw poker at the Embassy. Their arrest became the test case for the legality of non-house banked draw poker in California as a 'game of skill'.
-- The State Attorney General agreed that since Poker was specifically excluded from the the list of prohibited games, it wasn't prohibited, legalizing poker at the Embassy, and establishing Gardena as the first (and only until the late 1970's) California city to license card rooms.
-- Eventually, six rooms were licensed in Gardena, including the Embassy which was sold in 1968, and re-branded as the El Dorado.
-- In 1979, card rooms were legalized in Bell, which was the beginning of the end for poker in Gardena, as their monopoly was broken by competing tax starved cities with larger, modern clubs, and the tidal wave of nearby tribal casinos that offered slots.
-- -- After almost two decades of decline that saw the closing of four of the other six clubs, the El Dorado closed in 1996, it was purchased by Pornographer Larry Flynt in 1998 and the building was torn down to build the Hustler Casino, which opened on August 22, 2000. The Hustler is perhaps one of the ugliest pieces of architecture west of the Mississippi:
It looks like Swiss cheese, but it is supposed to be a crown.
-- The one thing I remember about the El Dorado was the curtain of smoke that smacked you when you opened the doors. This was back in the days prior to the indoor smoking ban in California. It was intense.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
bobbartop
You're right, the Hustler is the ugliest building ever. I thought the inside was ridiculous too. I've played there less than a dozen times.
In the earlier California law prohibiting gambling, there was a clause, no 'stud-horse poker'. That little phrase was a can of worms. There is a lot of history on the interpretation of what the legislature meant by 'stud-horse poker'. You could probably spend hours reading about just that, and the subsequent rulings. Anyway, someone figured that 'stud-horse poker' did not mean 'draw poker', and the games began. lol It wasn't until the mid-80s that it got resolved, and now the term 'stud-horse poker' is removed from the law books.
It's been years since I read up on it, but the Oaks Club in Emeryville and the Huntington Park Casino in Los Angeles played a significant role in getting them to finally ok other forms of poker than just Draw variations. Then, city by city started changing their regulations. San Diego and Sacramento were two of the very last to bring on hold'em, so while the rest of the state played hold'em there were a few years where those two jurisdictions continued to allow Draw poker only. The very last city to give in, that I personally know of, was Lodi, California. Now you'd probably be very hard-pressed to find a lowball game in the state.
In the earlier California law prohibiting gambling, there was a clause, no 'stud-horse poker'. That little phrase was a can of worms. There is a lot of history on the interpretation of what the legislature meant by 'stud-horse poker'. You could probably spend hours reading about just that, and the subsequent rulings. Anyway, someone figured that 'stud-horse poker' did not mean 'draw poker', and the games began. lol It wasn't until the mid-80s that it got resolved, and now the term 'stud-horse poker' is removed from the law books.
It's been years since I read up on it, but the Oaks Club in Emeryville and the Huntington Park Casino in Los Angeles played a significant role in getting them to finally ok other forms of poker than just Draw variations. Then, city by city started changing their regulations. San Diego and Sacramento were two of the very last to bring on hold'em, so while the rest of the state played hold'em there were a few years where those two jurisdictions continued to allow Draw poker only. The very last city to give in, that I personally know of, was Lodi, California. Now you'd probably be very hard-pressed to find a lowball game in the state.
PokerGrinder
Very cool chip of the days. Both the Cali and the PR ones. I enjoyed the history lesson on California card rooms.You can shear a sheep a hundred times, but you can skin it only once. — Amarillo Slim Preston
Doc
Casino: El Dorado
I have listed this one in the thread index as 'Eldorado' instead of 'El Dorado' for two reasons: (1) That's what the name on the chip looks like to me and (2) The MoGH Chip Guide has this place listed as 'Eldorado Club'.
Since the place is gone, it might be difficult to establish now just how they presented the name in other places than on the chips. Does anyone have a definitive answer? If 'Eldorado' is correct, then you can either edit the CCotD post to reflect that or just leave it as it is.
Edit: The graphic that Ayecarumba posted does call the place 'The Eldorado Club'. Can't quite see the full name on the building. Guess that may answer the question. I missed that graphic before.
Last edited by: Doc on Jul 28, 2016
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